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Electroplay Unplugged: Shattering Myths and Embracing Female Pleasure
Have you ever wondered if electrostimulation is only for men? Our special guest Liz, with over 20 years in the kink scene, is here to help shatter that myth. Join us as Liz takes us on her personal journey in kink.
Together with Caz (Wifey), we explore just some of the variety of e-stim devices we offer. We focus on the importance of thoughtful design, safety considerations, and the exhilarating potential of remote control systems. Liz shares her dual perspective as both a new user and a Dominatrix, highlighting how these devices can provide both pleasure and control, tailored to individual preferences and experiences.
Listen in as we challenge stereotypes and embrace the adaptability of electro play for women. Discover how these experiences can be personalized for solo adventures or shared with a partner, offering endless enjoyment and exploration. Liz's enthusiasm for her newfound knowledge and her excitement about future explorations is contagious, leaving listeners eager for more insights into the dynamic world of E-Stim or ElectroPlay for women.
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Hello everyone. It's Wayne here from Eastin Systems, and today we're going to talk about something completely different. We're not going to talk about boxes. We're not going to talk about product. We're going to talk about how to use the product, and we're going to do it in a completely different way. We're going to talk about how to use the product from a female perspective. Now I've got myself two glamorous assistants. We have Bones, who you've possibly met before, and we have a very great friend, liz, who has never used Eastin before but is willing to try. So this is going to be a great opportunity to introduce Eastin from a female perspective. But there is a problem.
Liz:Yeah, there is. You're not a woman.
Wayne:No, not am I, oops, but I have a solution.
Caz:Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman. Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman. You are, indeed. I'm the wifey and also a very good friend of yours, isn't she? Yes, we are, and we're going to talk about all things Eastim, and I'm going to let you see what it feels like. Hi, it's Kaz, aka the wifey from Eastim Systems, and I've been joined today by Liz. Would you like to introduce yourself a bit more?
Liz:Hi, my name's Liz. I am a kinky female there you go.
Caz:A kinky female. How's that? How long have you classed yourself as being a kinky female, for I would say a little over 20 years.
Liz:I reckon Sort of like pretty much from early encounters.
Liz:I mean, you know, teenagers fooling around and just finding other things more appealing, I guess, which is great now because so many things are so much more acceptable now. I remember I was talking about this with somebody recently that when I you know, way back when I was in school and nu metal was a brand new thing in high school and Slipknot first came out and their drummer and his mask, that game I was about 16 years old. That made me think lots and lots of things about the long hair and the mask and keeping the mask on. And now people are like, oh yeah, masks, it's a whole thing. But 16, 17, 18 years old, it was not a thing then and it sort of went from things like that to liking being restrained or a little bit of breath, play and things and not really knowing what it was then until probably by the time I was about 20 and got involved with other more like-minded people and everybody has that pilgrimage to torture garden and things like that the scene has changed.
Caz:It's become a big one. So during all your experimentation, have you ever played your electro play or anything?
Liz:yes, not as much as I would like to. I again, it was probably about 20 years ago now when I first even heard of like violet wands and then fell down that rabbit hole of the fact that it was a victorian thing as well and being thoroughly interested by that side of things and the the historic and the antique and the zappy zappy play. But certainly back then it was like you either bought an antique thing or spent five or six hundred pounds on what was around at the time, so that was not really something that 20 year old me could do. And then, certainly later on, as I've got back into the scene, I do have a few external clip on things. I got a? Um, I do have a few external clip-on things. I do have a violet wand. I'm still holding out for an antique one because I just think they look really cool. I'm not sure I'd risk using it, but they look really cool in the box.
Caz:They are very showy-offy. Have you ever actually tried to ease them? I have not. Have you ever used anything like a TENS machine or used it on a person?
Liz:use them on people and I've used them on me for both uses. Actually the actual ow. This really hurts and apparently this helps outlook as well as the oh okay.
Caz:So easter is, you know, isn't just for men one of the conceptions out there. A lot of people think, oh yeah, easter it's just a man's thing and it's designed more for male genital. But actually ladies can play with it. I'm going to give you an electric child and I want you to close your eyes and I want you to imagine. It's somewhere more interesting. We can't do full demonstrations on here and I'll talk through the sensation with you and I will talk about how it can be used and what other places eastern for women can be used safety checks.
Wayne:Please do not play with any eastern equipment if you are pregnant, have a heart condition, suffer from epilepsy or have any form of electronic implant so this is an ideal vaginal probe for lady.
Caz:In fact you've got two contact points, top and bottom, and you have this lovely flange, flangey around the edge here which on some ladies can hit the labia and on some ladies in the right position does hit the elusive clitoris, and it's called a flange electrode. It is bipolar, an ideal beginner one really. There are some out on the market, some white electrodes with small like contacts side by side where the sensation was sort of like a round around sensation. But this one, the sensation is generally top to bottom nope, nope, okie, dokie.
Liz:Right, if you want to hold that in your hand I mean, just even before you do, I would say with I keep keep doing this, but just just, the quality is so smooth that looks really obviously as you said internally, but also that looks like just the right kind of size and as smooth and that to hold on your clit as well as a direct you could bounce off the surface.
Caz:You could hold it on your clit, but what will happen is, because you've only got one contact on your clit, you might not feel the sensation as much. You do need to make sure both contacts are thing. I will get onto electro ones which you can use on your clit as much. You do need to make sure both contacts are thing. I will get onto electro ones which you can use on your clear to look better. So you just need to hold it in one hand, please, and touch both contacts top and bottom.
Caz:We have here our helix control books. This is the regeneration of what was our original series, one easy to use. We've got power setting, feel, which controls how spiky or soft what you feel be, and speed, which works with the pulsing modes. I'm going to switch it on and let me know when you can feel anything. I would actually say close your eyes and just imagine this is somewhere else. It's quite prickly at the moment, isn't it? Let's soften those spikes out a little bit and of course, you can make it pulsar stuff. There's definitely food for thought going on there. Is it how you thought your film?
Liz:no, no, I confess I did not know that. When did you put it? Smooth out the flow? I didn't realize you could adjust. I figured it's because if I turn it that way, it's quite prickly yeah if I turn it that way I suppose the science in there somewhere is like the waves are closer together than further apart.
Caz:They're closer together than further apart.
Liz:But literally that I mean I, in my ignorance, previous experience of just having things that are it's stronger or it's you know, the intensity is either higher or lower and that's it. There's not a you can't mess with. I'm going to say smoother the spiky. Now that's going to be the phrase. Now that's fine, smoother the spiky, but also that being able to mess with the different pulse and things like that. That is curious to know what the other settings are.
Caz:Okay, so what I'll do? I'll give that to you, I'll put it back on spiky. I'll let you have a little play. So that's your power. Yeah, that's your spiky and smooth and that's your pulsing. And then, if you want to change the mode, you press that button there and it'll change to a different setting. Okay, I'll let you have a play now.
Caz:What liz is playing with is our electro helix, which is an ideal beginner's unit and it's ideal for ladies as a start-out point. It's easy to use, you have a bit more control. It can be used internally or externally. So what this is holding in the hand at the moment is a probe that's been used internally, but you can actually put sticky pads. You can put sticky pads either side of your labia lips, so that way you're firm, pulsing, but then go across the labia. Okay, so it's quite an interesting sensation. So it's got various modes and settings, and then with fire mode.
Liz:You'll feel nothing until you press that button. So it's not fire button, it's fire.
Caz:Right, okay, it's an ultimate fire button. Yes, that's nice. Her face is ill.
Liz:I think she's enjoying this. I'm torn between this is really pleasant and also feeling like I'm doing a review here of literally just the consistency to it, of the speed and the smooth to spiky, etc.
Caz:I cannot get over from a lady's point of view, that internally you play around with the senses. Once you get that right setting you can sort of wiggle the electrodes around a little bit. Sometimes you can get your g-spot pads. You can put them by your clitoris. Once you get the right settings it can be really, really nice.
Liz:But that right, there is a huge difference, for, just from my perspective of what you guys do, because it seems like a lot of the time and I could be wrong, I apologise if I am, but it seems like a lot of the time toys are designed by men for women and they've never owned a vagina in their life. Some of them, I wonder if they've even seen one, but that's a separate story. But literally, with a lot of like with vibrators, a lot of them, you get like slow to fast or medley, yeah, and who the hell likes the medley button? I'm not anybody who likes the medley button, where it's just, we're going to just start getting you somewhere. They're going to switch to this setting, that setting, that one back again, and there's no consistency to it. So, literally, even on the milk setting, yeah, where it is doing different things, there's still a rhythm to it. Yeah, rather than, like I said, it's sort of annoys me about some toys. It's like, just, you know, welcome to Medley's Greatest Hits.
Liz:Now, I might regret this now, but we're going to. We're going to Going to try you on the fire button. Photon torpedoes, number two Okay, Photon torpedoes number two.
Caz:Okay, are you ready for this? Yes, ma'am, so that's what that will be. That's what we call the naughty button, fight button. So please can I have some more? Okay, she's enjoying this way too much.
Liz:I can leave no no, no, no, of course not.
Caz:I think it's it's, it's because that, that's all. That that binds me is almost like the post. What did it feel like?
Liz:oh yeah so it's not just for men no, it's really not but also as a, as someone who is very much into kink in their personal life, as well as being a dom as well. I can see both sides of it for being very entertaining for myself and and entertaining in another way, of causing complete torture for other people, which is what I find entertaining you know you're asking about on the clitoris. Yes, ma'am.
Caz:With the electro ones, obviously because you've got the wider space in here, because you've got the insulator slightly closer together, a slightly smaller, close letter. This one can actually be used externally as well, because you can. You know, you do have a vibrator, you can rub it over your external genitals, but that you can actually use on the clitoris quite nicely. I mean, this one's inserted, you can move it around and again you can get your g-spot. I am very sensitive right at the very top around the cervical area. So some for me that was a bit too intense, but for some other ladies it's quite nice. So this is quite nice to split with. It's become my new best friend.
Caz:And then we go on to the other fun fun things as well. Because I mentioned sticky pads. Sticky pads for ladies can be quite interesting. If you set up your labia, you can put a pad here and pad there and you can put the client across, you can put it on, so your clitoris some people put seem to put a pad on their fine, a pad on their clitoris, to put it up that way. Don't ask me why, but I have seen people saying that's what they do and they can be good trying, and you can also put a pad either side of one nipple, but not one pad on one or on the other, because you're going to crush your chest with piercings. If you want to be really cruel with piercings, you can put the pads on the piercings and it makes them a little bit more intense depending on where the piercings are.
Liz:Hey Macarena.
Caz:One thing with piercings is we don't recommend that you use them as a contact until at least six months after they have been done, because it takes time for the body to heal. There are other electrodes that can be electrified for a female it just looks like you know, made by nasa other electrodes that can be used internally. Obviously you've got the ones, you've got the flanges, you've got a whole range of all different ones, all different shapes and sizes.
Liz:I'm gonna I keep talking about the quality of the machining and I'm over here like it's so smooth, but it's it's so smooth.
Caz:What do you think of that one, this one on this one, if you notice that the next is sort of based on top, so you only insert it up to there, whereas this one, from a female perspective, you can actually insert it to there, so you then have that internal, that internal, that external. I designed that one, I just I came up with that design mainly because a lot of what we were doing from a female, from this, was me looking at the electrodes from a female point of view. The top of the bottom for me was like, yeah, that's a great idea, but it was just needing something else. That's something more that can go that little bit further.
Caz:In this one does sometimes, at least on me personally will sit outside my g spot, so then it pulls the kind of customer g spots. So that's quite nice, and I just wanted something that's just a bit more curvy, a bit more feminine looking, and it had that. Hence why it's got the red neck as well, because I wanted to be sort of slightly more feminine looking, although it can be used by men and men do use them and it just gives you that option to go that little bit further or, as you've mentioned that little bit shallower, depending on how you are down there really yeah, and it very much has that kind of love, egg stroke, kegel weight shape to it as well and then we get onto the egg.
Caz:This is the diddy egg. That one, again, you can pop right up inside. It can certainly get your g-spot, and again you've got the closer connection and you can again use that on your clitoris as well. And how long's the cable?
Liz:the cable is a meter and a half long up through the back of your jeans into your hand. Yep, yep, I just got. Ideas are going to show Wireless model coming soon.
Caz:We do actually have a remote control system whereby you could, whereby somebody could, be wired up to an electrode and then it can be controlled from a distance. We do actually have a remote control system. You don't necessarily have to be in control yourself. How am I going to touch this thing? You are going to plug it in and let me touch it. Let's have a shiny shiny. Can I have the people please? So we're now going to go up a level, yes, ma'am, to the intermediate box. Now this is the electrode level. So that one, the helix. I showed you that one.
Caz:You know you can have one electrode in, so you can have an internal decisions decisions with this one, the pebble, you've got two outputs, two controls so you can have different level settings, and this one's got nine modes. I'm gonna switch this one and this one's got in it one of my favorite modes. It's just got to be a microphone does it talk to me as well?
Liz:I mean, do I not need men ever again?
Caz:I don't know, depends. Do you want to talk to me or do you want to talk dirty with me? Are you going to be naughty? And because sound can sound fairies, you can actually stimulate some music. Choose copyright, you can't play any music, but you can actually use.
Liz:That's the sexual equivalent of the flower on top of the TV the dancing flower.
Caz:Imagine having that in your local club. You just said you've just been to a really fun place. There's probably no doubt had music.
Liz:It's a fantastic place with all my kind of heavy metal going. So, yeah, imagine heavy metal coming through that, all that nice bassy metal noisy I have a few playlists I'm just talking about. There we go. I'm turning myself on.
Caz:Come closer oh dear oh god, just my cackle is doing good things Okay. We actually tested the audio, crazy fuck.
Liz:Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yep, yep, yep, I can see that working. Yep, don't, because you do it like that. Now I'm hearing the little Yagala people for copyright purposes, for ba-ba-ba means a lot to me anyway. Yep and um, my whole life has a soundtrack in all things, and having sex without music on is just why. Am I bothering in my brain anyway, unless you're outside, in which case sorry, sorry, I'm out of stealth, but literally every time I laugh. This is fun.
Liz:I have different playlists on my phone because for me personally, when I'm, even when I'm playing with myself, let alone playing with other people, I do like having music on. That heightens it for me. But again, if I'm with a partner, from from personal perspective, one of the things I love to do is have I actually I have a um, a bluetooth mask that's got built-in earphones in the actual mask or mask and regular earphones, whichever, but so I can't see I got music in my ears so that I have different playlists that appeal to that side of me. And if we can do that and have my hands tied up too, so that I have different playlists that appeal to that side of me, and if we can do that and have my hands tied up too, so that I can't interfere. I'm not expected to do anything. I can just feel what's occurring and listen to the music. Very happy times.
Caz:I quite like to spank and cane to music, need a rhythm. So you have the electrode inserted and then I can hear the music with headphones and I can spank and cane, especially on one on the A-Box, which is an audio driven box, but you can actually plug the, the audio source, into the box and you can actually put a splitter and put headphones in. So I can then spank and cane in time to music and then we feel the sensation at the same time makes playing them actually in a really good game. Going back to playing with sounds and microphones and ambient music and what you can feel.
Caz:There is actually a funny story to go alongside that, which was I had my partner suspended in a leather strapped bondage cage at an event and it happened to be their birthday and they were wired up to an east end on audio with the microphone mode on and I got the whole club to sing happy birthday to them and give them free chairs. And to this day I think they haven't yet forgiven me. But it was great fun for me listening to the video because it had to be sung at such a nice loud tone more than once and it was great fun. So yes, I think Liz likes the audio side of things, so again also with the music audio side of things. It isn't just for men.
Liz:No, that's just, you just need. I was about to say you just need ears, but you don't. No, because you can feel it. No, I hadn't even thought about that for a second, because of course I'm thinking obviously it's reacting to my voice and if you put music to it it would pick up that and in rhythm to that. But yeah, just yeah, hadn't even thought about it from that side of things too back after a brief interlude, a few moments later.
Caz:So, liz, you've tried the Helix, you've tried the Pebble, you've tried the Mose, you've tried the Audio. What if I was to say you can actually take it up even further, in that all the other electrodes you've been holding so far you've only had two points of contact. What if I said you could have an electrode that's got three points of contact? Continue, we have what we call the triple. Okay, and this is a three point of contact electrodes. You've got one, two, three. So you can't be as one, two, one, two, one, two, three, one, two, because you've got three connectors in the bottom. So let's try the triple, let's try the triple. I'm gonna put you in.
Liz:You quite like to melt in here. It was interesting.
Caz:Yes, it's a good look. You should start to feel something yep you can have part.
Liz:Well, some parts more intense than others that's completely the opposite to the other way now, because it's it's the end that is really strong on this now there's a totally different sensation.
Caz:Yeah, and then for something a bit more interesting, if I go into split, you should have two bits that are continuous and the third bit should be pulsing slightly, slightly is not the word for it, but yeah.
Liz:That was an emphatic pulse.
Caz:So it is a slightly different sensation, it is so which is a slightly different sensation.
Liz:It is so which is the consistent one, the consistent one on the output.
Caz:So that's your consistence. Level A is consistent. Okay, that's the pulsing and then the bit. Get that one up a bit and you can adjust it to make it pulse faster with the adjust.
Liz:Hold mixing desk here. Oh, that's fine, but I could see talk about completely customizable. You could play around with that for a long, long time and you're not limited to just having insertables.
Caz:You can have insert and a pad.
Liz:I like that. That is the words have left me. She's been left speechless.
Caz:Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Liz:I've actually left you speechless Also, you know, trying to.
Caz:Visualise it.
Liz:I'm trying to keep the language above the watershed level because we can put some beeps in.
Liz:Well, you need a lot of them with me normally, so I'm trying to be nice, but that beeps in. Wow, you need a lot of them with me normally, so I'm trying to be nice, but that oh, we were saying before about how medley version on things can be really annoying. This is, this is the opposite. So you've got that consistent background teasing and then those extra spikes to add a different layer to it. That is. I can see that being a lot of fun. A lot of fun. That is really neat well, it's interesting.
Caz:Okay, you can do the trifecta of audio. Let's see, she's got the giggle. Let's go back into that mode, shall we? There we go, and we're going back into audio. And now you've got three dimensions.
Liz:We had the three dimensions and zappy giggles oh lord, as I said, my, my cackle is perfect for that. Oh goodness, oh yeah, I'll see again. Now I'm picturing this with my my personal heavy metal preference, with the double kick pedal music in the background, with very, very heavy drumming. Very, very heavy humming Well yes, yes, and some high-pitched screaming afterwards yeah, I think so. That is so cool. That does not even begin to cover it, but that is really cool.
Liz:It's different no, it really is, it's. I just cannot get over how. How I mean I knew I feel like I need like and without sounding insulting, because that's not the point, I mean I knew it was, I knew they were good products, that that bit's obvious. But I didn't. I clearly what I was kind of picturing was nowhere in the ballpark of where your kit is.
Caz:This stuff is amazing, um so would you say, easton is man only. No, you can see potential for the females as well.
Liz:I do and, um, I'm very keen to uh product test. Should we say, um, I mean, I can see? I don't want to alienate anybody by saying it, but I think there can possibly be a level of maybe some women are a little put off by too much technology? I don't, I don't know. I mean maybe, maybe I mean put off might be the wrong word, but might think that maybe the assumption on shape or the whole, you know, cables and other bits, all that that's a guy thing, isn't it? And it's really, really not. The only things you need to be able to play with these are body parts and nerves.
Caz:Yep.
Liz:That would be the.
Caz:You can play with them, with your partners as well, although the suggestion I would have, if you are going to play with a partner, is play with it yourself. First, find out what you like and then relay that information to your partner, because it has been known that a couple have purchased an item and the first time they've gone to use it we've then been contacted to say that's I need to send it back because they've basically wired their partner up, whacked it up to 100, pressed the button and the poor partner is clinging onto the ceiling in a not very nice way. You want to be on the ceiling in a nice way, not a very nice way.
Liz:You kind of want to work up to the ceiling, not up.
Caz:Exactly, and you said about being techie. We do have the 2B, which is our top-end, junet, which has got multiple channels, it's got LCD display. It is very techie. But from a female perspective, the Pebble and the Helix, in my honest opinion, are easier and better to use.
Liz:And it also depends on your level of play as well. I mean, if you're looking for something to play with yourself with, or play for you and your partner to play with, then yeah, you might not necessarily want a whole LCD screen and to be conducting an entire symphony, or that might entirely be your kind of thing. I mean, you're not excluding whichever way you go with it, but it's like you said, there's different, different levels, right up to full-on dom and symphony, orchestra level of readouts oh, you want spike.
Caz:This is fascinated by spikey's. I mean, I like spikies anyway, but zappy spikies I'm very intrigued by zappy spikies I'm zappy spikies never tried zappy spikies, I've only tried spiky spikies well, zappy spike is what can again be connected to your control box in a continuous mode because needs constant flow. A little bit of gel, water-based lube on the skin just running over the skin, and then you get spiky, spiky, zappy, zappy, zappy, zappy, spiky, spiky very intrigued by zappy spiky because I like spiky.
Caz:Well, I very much like spiky yes okay, so take the spikies away I hope I haven't bored you to tears. Talking about all these is lord, no good. Have I given you some insight?
Liz:yes, ma'am, very much so it's, it's. I'm not my well. My horizons are pretty damn broad to begin with, but that's been very eye-opening. I am very intrigued now.
Caz:You're very intrigued, so is it something you'd like to try? Yes, now, would you like to come back in a couple of weeks and tell us what you thought?
Liz:Absolutely.
Caz:Fabulous.
Caz:So, guys, you will be seeing Liz again. As you can tell from the video, she's really enjoyed what she's felt in her hand, so it'll be interesting to see once she's had enjoyed what she's felt in her hand. So it'll be interesting to see once she's had some time and learn what she thinks of it and we can do more about Easton for women. Thank you so much, liz, for coming on today. Thank you, it's been such fun chatting with you and talking about Easton and everything kink. It's been really good fun and I look forward to talking to you some more in a couple weeks.
